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Zeus Touch installation manual

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Ethernet cable

extra ethernet cables

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Zeus Touch display

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HD radar scanner

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Ethernet adaptor cable

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Ethernet cable (Navico 5 pin type)

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NEP-2 expansion port module (optional - used where extra ports are required)

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RC42N heading sensor

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AT10HD (provides heading data to radar processor for radar overlay and MARPA)

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Содержание Zeus Touch

Страница 1: ...ENGLISH ZeusTouch Installation Guide www bandg com ...

Страница 2: ...2 Zeus Touch installation manual ...

Страница 3: ...hanges to specifications without notice Copyright Copyright 2012 Navico Holding AS Warranty The warranty card is supplied as a separate document In case of any queries refer to the brand web site of your display or system www bandg com Declarations and conformance This equipment is intended for use in international waters as well as coastal sea areas adminis tered by countries of the E U and E E A...

Страница 4: ... of the following measures Reorient or relocate the receiving antenna Increase the separation between the equipment and receiver Connect the equipment into an outlet on a circuit different from that of the receiver Consult the dealer or an experienced technician for help About this manual This manual is a reference guide for installing Zeus Touch systems The manual assumes that the user has basic ...

Страница 5: ... connection basic 18 Power Control yellow wire 19 Power Control setup 20 External alarm 20 External Alarm Setup 21 External GPS 21 Mounting location 22 Internal echosounder 22 External echosounder 23 Transducer adapter cables 24 Echosounder setup 26 RADAR 27 HD radar 28 Radar setup 30 Video In 30 Connecting video sources 30 Video In configuration 31 NMEA 0183 31 Wiring NMEA 0183 for serial balance...

Страница 6: ... 51 Backing up user data 51 Zeus Touch software updates 52 NMEA 2000 and Ethernet device updates 52 Touch Screen Calibration 53 Dimensioned Drawings 53 Zeus Touch 7 54 Zeus Touch 8 55 Zeus Touch 12 56 Connector Pinouts 56 Power 56 Video Data 57 NMEA 2000 57 Network Ethernet 57 Echosounder 57 Accessories 58 NMEA 2000 cables 58 Ethernet cables 59 Supported data 59 NMEA 2000 PGN List 62 NMEA 0183 sup...

Страница 7: ...ctivity whereas the Zeus Touch 7 and Zeus Touch 8 have built in echosound ers and a single ethernet connector Built in Insight or Navionics coastal cartography depending on region with optional Platinum Support via micro SD Network capability with B G Zeus and Simrad NSS NSE and NSO multifunction displays Expansion options include Integration with AC12N AC42N autopilot computers external BSM 1 BSM...

Страница 8: ...o previous menu level and to remove the cursor from the screen on chart radar and echosounder panels 7 Rotary knob Used for zooming chart and for scrolling through menus Press rotary knob to confirm selec tion 8 GOTO PAGES key A short press displays the Pages overview panel Home page Repeated short presses toggles between Pages overview Tools and Settings panels A long press displays the Go To men...

Страница 9: ...A 0183 Supplied cable provides two composite video inputs page 30 and one NMEA0 183 port see NMEA0 183 Wiring page 31 4 NMEA 2000 Connects Zeus Touch display to a NMEA 2000 or SimNet network see NMEA 2000 on page 33 page 33 5 NETWORK Three Ethernet network ports on the Zeus Touch 12 or one on the Zeus Touch 7 and Zeus Touch 8 for connecting to other Zeus Touch displays and Network modules page 38 ...

Страница 10: ...ATA Video 1 Red Video 2 Green RX Green Blue Yellow Orange TX TX RX NMEA 0183 Serial port POWER Red FUSE Black Yellow Power Control Ext Alarm 12 or 24 V DC Blue _ ETHERNET SWITCH 3G 4G ECHO TRANSDUCER Various inhull through hull and transom mount options available External GPS ZG50 POWER 12 V DC Auto Pilot Triton AC12 Heading Sensor RC42 Audio SonicHub Engines NMEA2000 Digital Switching CZONE Instr...

Страница 11: ...ional 2nd transducer for high deadrise hulls 2 4 6 10 or 25 kW Audio cable POWER NETWORK NETWORK NETWORK NETWORK NETWORK T12 T12 ETHERNET SWITCH TRANSDUCER BROADBAND RADAR 3G 4G WM 2 Various inhull through hull and transom mount options available External GPS ZG50 POWER 12 V DC Auto Pilot Triton AC12 Heading Sensor RC42 Audio SonicHub Engines NMEA2000 Digital Switching CZONE Instruments Triton AIS...

Страница 12: ...on Zeus Touch installation manual Planning the installation Preparing for installation Tools required 3 2 4 5 6 7 8 1 1 Drill 2 Jig Saw 3 Drill Bit 4 Drill Bit 5 Hole Saw 25mm 1 6 Pozi Screw Driver 7 File 8 PVC Electrical Tape 1 ...

Страница 13: ...tion manual Check the contents 2 3 4 7 6 5 8 2 1 Key Description Key Description 1 Sun Cover 5 Documentation wallet 2 Cosmetic screw covers x2 6 Video NMEA0183 cable T12 only 3 Zeus Touch Display 7 Power cable 4 Flush mount gasket 8 Machine screws x4 ...

Страница 14: ... in a safe position and will not weaken the boat s structure If in doubt consult a qualified boat builder Before cutting a hole in a panel make sure that there are no hidden electrical wires or other parts behind the panel Do not mount any part where it can be used as a hand hold where it might be submerged or where it will interfere with the operation launching or retrieving of the boat If bracke...

Страница 15: ... self tapping screws used to secure the display If using M4 machine screws use a 5 mm 0 20 drill bit Peel backing off the gasket and ap ply to the surface Connect all cables to the rear of the unit before placing the unit into the console Secure the display to the surface To finish off the installation firmly clip the upper and lower bezels in place Use a 25 mm 1 hole saw to cut the four corner ra...

Страница 16: ...h fasteners Fit rear bezel to ZeusTouch using supplied machine screws Align the ZeusTouch ratchet teeth with those of the bracket and partially screw in the bracket knobs one at a time Further tighten both knobs to ensure the unit is held securely and can t tilt forward under it s own weight Stand back and check if the viewing angle is correct Loosen the knobs slightly if adjustment is required th...

Страница 17: ...lengthened or re terminated do insulate and protect all wiring connections Do leave room at the back to install and remove cables Warning Before starting the installation be sure to turn electrical power off If power is left on or turned on during the installation fire electrical shock or other serious injury may occur Be sure that the voltage of the power supply is compatible with the Zeus Touch ...

Страница 18: ...powered on It can be configured at the installation stage to control the power state of displays and compatible devices When commissioning the system displays can be set to be a Power Control Slave or Power Control Master Power Control configuration options of the Zeus Touch are use the Power button to turn on the display only Yellow wire not connected display to turn on when power is applied to t...

Страница 19: ... Note If a display has its power state controlled by another display or ignition switch it can t be totally powered down It can enter a standby state to save power If the power button is pressed and Power Off selected a message will appear Preparing to standby Power Control setup To configure a display as a Power Control Slave or Master select Power control from System under the Settings menu The ...

Страница 20: ... and acknowledged from all displays however the external alarm siren can be enabled or disabled on individual displays For information on configuring alarms refer to the Alarms section in the Operation manual 12 24 V DC 1 A max 35 V DC max Red FUSE Black Yellow _ Blue For sirens that draw more than 1 Amp use a relay 12 24 V DC Red FUSE Black Yellow _ Blue External Alarm Setup The SIREN ENABLED opt...

Страница 21: ...er An external GPS source such as the ZG05 can be used to overcome this by allowing remote installation in a location that has an unobscured view of the sky An NMEA 2000 expansion kit may be required to connect the GPS antenna to the Zeus Touch if no other network cabling is installed Refer to page 33 for further details on connecting to the network T T 12 24 V DC _ For setting the external GPS as...

Страница 22: ...adjacent to the power connector External echosounder An optional external sounder module BSM 1 LSS 1 BSM 2 can be added to the Zeus Touch 7 Zeus Touch 8 and Zeus Touch 12 via the ethernet port on any of these devices _ 1 3 4 5 2 1 1 Zeus Touch display 2 BSM 1 Broadband Echosounder module 3 Ethernet cable yellow 5 pin See page 58 for more cable length options Cable can be con nected directly to Zeu...

Страница 23: ... 4 Blue 7 pin connector 6 pin connector Connector Pins Front View Connector Pins Front View 5 4 3 2 1 6 0 7 m 28 For other transducers that do not have Navico blue 7 Pin or 6 pin above connector that require the connector to be removed Use 000 10046 001 7 pin to bare wire adapter cable Not all transducers are compatible with Zeus Touch or BSM 1 Refer to the transducer type selection list in the Ec...

Страница 24: ...ce Enter a positive value e g A B C Echosounder software version For external sounder modules the software version is displayed under Sonar installation To upgrade Sonar software See Applying Software Updates on page 51 Water speed calibration Echosounder transducer Water speed calibration is used to adjust the speed value from the paddle wheel to match the actual boat speed through the water Actu...

Страница 25: ...d to adjust the water temperature value from the echosounder transducer to match the data from another temperature sensor It may be required to correct for localised influences to the measured temperature Calibration range 9 9 9 9 Default is 0 Note Water temperature calibration only appears if the transducer is temperature capable Check transducer type selection if this option should be available ...

Страница 26: ...Micro C Ethernet 9 Key Description Notes 1 Zeus Touch display 2 BroadBand radar scanner 3 Interconnection cable Standard 20 m 65 ft cable Optional lengths 10 m 33 ft and 30 m 98 ft 4 RI10 radar interface box 5 Ethernet cable Radar supplied with a 1 8 m 6 ft cable 6 Ethernet cables Additional required to connect radar via an NEP 2 7 NEP 2 expansion port module 8 Micro C drop cable 9 Micro C to SimN...

Страница 27: ...Touch FUSE FUSE FUSE FUSE 1 2 3 6 4 5 7 8 9 Key Description 1 Zeus Touch display 2 HD radar scanner 3 HD radar processor module 4 Ethernet adaptor cable 5 Ethernet cable Navico 5 pin type 6 NEP 2 expansion port module optional used where extra ports are required 7 RC42N heading sensor 8 AT10HD provides heading data to radar processor for radar overlay and MARPA 9 NMEA 2000 backbone ...

Страница 28: ...e it has an incorrect Device ID With the radar connected and power up select the Reset Device ID button to resolve this problem Note This procedure must be performed with only one radar on the network Adjust bearing alignment This is to align with the heading marker on the screen with the center line of the vessel this will compensate for any slight misalignment of the scanner during installation ...

Страница 29: ...limi nated using the Sidelobe Suppression control in the Radar installation menu By default this control is set to Auto and normally should not need to be adjusted However if there is significant metallic clutter around the radar sidelobe suppression may need to be increased The control should be adjusted as follows 1 Set Radar range to between 1 2 nm to 1 nm and Sidelobe Suppression to Auto 2 Tak...

Страница 30: ... to the video source Connecting video sources VIDEO 1 VIDEO 2 VIDEO IN RED GREEN note Only connect NTSC and PAL video sources Video In configuration Tapping the video panel will bring up the video panel buttons Access the Video Menu by one of the following Press the MENU key Tap the MENU icon in the video panel buttons Press and hold on the video panel Enable PAL or NTSC depending on the video oup...

Страница 31: ...put VIDEO IN NMEA 0183 A B Orange RX_GND Green RX Blue TX_GND Yellow 4800 9600 38400 baud TX NMEA0183 Talker NMEA0183 Listener RX_GND RX TX_GND TX note some product literature may use different naming for connections The following cor relations can be assumed Tx_A Tx Tx_B Tx Rx_A Rx Rx_B Rx Tx TxD Rx RxD note when connecting to a DB 9 plug for interfacing to a PC combine Rx_GND and TX_GND from the...

Страница 32: ...lways use the same standard Baud rate Baud Rate is set simultaneously for the input and the ouput it can not be set at a different speed for each It should be set to match the speed of the device connected to it Most NMEA 0183 devices send data at 4800 baud Note AIS transponders typically operate at NMEA0183 HS high speed and will require the baud rate to be set to 38 400 NMEA0183 output To enable...

Страница 33: ...nstalling a network backbone The NMEA 2000 backbone needs to run between the locations of all products you want to install typically in a bow to stern layout and be no further than 6 m from a device to be con nected Choose from the following components to make up your NMEA 2000 backbone Micro C cables 0 4 m 1 3 ft 2 m 6 6 ft 5 m 16 6 ft and 9 m 29 5 ft cables Micro C power cables with or without t...

Страница 34: ...nother power connection Note Do not connect the NMEA 2000 power cable to the same terminals as the start batter ies Autopilot Computer Radar thruster or other high current devices The drawing below demonstrates a typical small network The backbone is entirely made up of T piece joiners which are terminated at each end 12 V DC T T T Micro C Power Terminator In the larger system below the backbone i...

Страница 35: ...A 2000 and NMEA0 183 Multiple Displays In multi display setups each display can be used to convert data from a different NMEA 0183 talker and will be available to any device on NMEA 2000 Each display can be setup for output ting different NMEA 0183 sentences Note When bridging data from ethernet a Zeus Touch display has to be nominated to bridge the data If this nominated display is turned off no ...

Страница 36: ...efore selecting the Auto Select option Manual source selection Manual selection is generally only required where there is more than one source for the same data and the automatically selected source is not the one desired Group source selection B G products such as the Zeus Touch Zeus and Triton Display have the ability to use data sources eg position wind direction etc that all other products on ...

Страница 37: ...rammed with unique instance numbers This means that the auto select feature can t determine which engine is fitted on the port and which is fitted on the starboard side Network Groups It is also possible to group certain settings so they are duplicated across the network on multiple displays Display ie backlighting units damping and alarms can be grouped either in Default group or groups 1 through...

Страница 38: ...evice The Ethernet port is auto sensing meaning that the Zeus Touch can connect to one Network module directly without the use of a cross over cable or switch Broadband Radar T7 Connecting to multiple devices Expanding the Zeus Touch7 and Zeus Touch8 For Zeus Touch7 and Zeus Touch8 If connecting more than one Ethernet device use the optional network expansion Port NEP 2 Broadband Radar T7 or T8 T7...

Страница 39: ... modules need connection use the optional network expansion port NEP 2 Broadband Radar BSM 1 T12 A second Zeus Touch connected to one of the Zeus Touch12 s three built in ports will have full visibilty and control over any devices connected to another port on the Zeus Touch12 in the same way it would if all devices were connected via an NEP 2 expansion port Transducer Broadband Radar T12 T7 ...

Страница 40: ...does not clear it is recommended that all devices have the power cycled IP addresses The lower table shows the IP address of the display being viewed top of list the Master display with a tick next to it and any other displays in a multi display network The function of the Master is invisible to the end user It manages database synchronisation however this task automatically shifts to another disp...

Страница 41: ...lone to conserve dash space Wiring the autopilot system Using the AC12N or AC42N autopilot computer The AC12N AC42N is connected to the Zeus Touch system using the NMEA 2000 network For more information about how to install and wire the autopilot refer to the separate AC12N AC42N Installation manual 5 Amp Fuse 12 V DC 12 24 V DC 1 2 3 8 6 5 4 7 9 1 Zeus Touch Display 2 Pump Drive RPU160 RPU300 DD1...

Страница 42: ... Commissioning dialog Com pleted procedures are labelled with a tick When the autopilot computer is delivered from factory AND ANY TIME AFTER AN AUTOPILOT RESET HAS BEEN PERFORMED you will have to run a complete setup again All steps in all commissioning procedures are clearly described on screen and you will be guided step by step through the process 1 Press the STBY AUTO key to ensure that the a...

Страница 43: ...he default setting and it allows you to steer the boat with the helm or wheel when in STBY mode FU and NFU modes as well as in all auto steering modes Auto This option is typically used to switch between two rudder speeds on a continu ous running pump used when different rudder speeds are required for automatic and Follow up Non Follow up steering Motor output Shows the amount of power needed to a...

Страница 44: ...ass will measure the magnitude and direction of the local magnetic field If the local magnetic field is stronger than the earth s magnetic field the local field is reading more than 100 the compass calibration will fail If the local field is reading more than 30 you should look for any interfering magnetic objects and remove them or you should move the compass to a different location The local fie...

Страница 45: ...em automatically changes from LO to HI steering param eters On power boats it is recommended that you set a value that represents the speed where the hull begins to plane or the speed where you change from slow to cruising speed On sailboats the transition speed should be set to 3 4 knots to give the best response in a tack A deadband of 2 knots is incorporated to prevent oscillation of HI LO sett...

Страница 46: ...t shifting wind side will also be made at a controlled turn rate Range Change per step Default Units 2 50 1 12 seconds Tack angle This value is used to preset the course change used when tacking in AUTO mode By pressing the left right arrow keys the course will change as much as this value Range Change per step Default Units 50 150 1 100 Wind function With wind function set to Auto the autopilot w...

Страница 47: ...r ideal response A C B Auto trim This parameter defines how fast the autopilot shall correspond after having registered a heading error The standard value is 40 seconds which should work well on most boats Rule of thumb Set to same value seconds as the boat s length in feet On boats operating on VRF the value should be set to 20 seconds Rate limit Sets the maximum allowed rate of turn The value sh...

Страница 48: ...tion change limit This parameter defines the maximum course change where the autopilot is allowed to auto matically change the course when the Zeus Touch follows a route NAV steering If the required course change to next waypoint in a route is more than the set limit you are prompted to verify that the upcoming course change is acceptable ...

Страница 49: ...d Once an Interface Bridge has been fitted a further 40 nodes and additional cable length can be added The Network Interface is available from your BEP dealer For more information please refer to the BEP web site www bepmarine com BEP part number 80 911 0057 00 A SimNet to Micro C cable 24006413 is required to connect to a SimNet network C ZONE NETWORK INTERFACE Network 1 Network 2 CZONE NETWORK 6...

Страница 50: ...tting is unique for each device On the Zeus Touch this can be set in the CZone menu on the Settings page Typically it is set after the config file already exists on the CZone system but it may also be set in advance When the config is already available on the network it will immediately commence upload ing to the Zeus Touch once the dipswitch is set Allow this to complete without interruption Sett...

Страница 51: ...Lowrance GPS chartplotters User data file version 2 no depth Use with legacy Lowrance GPS chartplotters GPX GPS Exchange Use with some other manufacturers GPS products and PC applications Northstar dat no Tracks Use with legacy Northstar chartplotters The Serial port option outputs the waypoints over NMEA 0183 The receiving GPS PC will typi cally need to be set to allow import of waypoints If the ...

Страница 52: ...lowed by confirmation of the device you wish to upgrade Do not interrupt the upgrade process Touch Screen Calibration 1 Turn the unit off 2 Press and hold the MENU key then turn the unit on 3 Hold the MENU key during power on until the calibration utility screen comes up 4 Touch crosshair shown on screen to perform nine point calibration 5 After successful calibration the unit will return to norma...

Страница 53: ...oned Drawings Zeus Touch 7 15 229 5 mm 9 03 260 mm 10 23 161 mm 6 33 168 5 mm 6 63 166 mm 6 53 140 5 mm 5 53 234 5 mm 9 23 212 5 mm 8 37 SUN COVER 26 5 mm 1 04 69 5 mm 2 73 12 mm 0 47 2 3 mm 0 09 120 mm 4 72 67 mm 2 63 123 mm 8 77 37 mm 1 45 88 mm 3 46 44 5 mm 1 75 ...

Страница 54: ...manual Zeus Touch 8 288 mm 11 33 197 mm 7 75 192 mm 7 56 199 mm 7 83 SUN COVER 26 5 mm 1 04 283 5 mm 11 16 306 9 mm 12 08 68 mm 2 67 120 mm 4 72 69 mm 2 71 12 mm 0 47 2 3 mm 0 09 41 mm 1 61 41 mm 1 61 171 mm 6 73 265 mm 10 43 277 mm 10 90 103 mm 4 05 ...

Страница 55: ...57 5 mm 14 07 250 mm 9 84 265 mm 10 43 231 mm 9 09 229 5 mm 9 03 26 mm 1 02 83 5 mm 3 28 54 5 mm 2 14 140 mm 5 51 41 mm 1 61 135 mm 5 31 75 mm 2 95 12 mm 0 47 2 3 mm 0 09 255 mm 10 39 SUN COVER CUTOUT 353 mm 13 89 375 mm 14 76 337 mm 13 26 335 5 mm 13 20 347 mm 9 72 1 2 1 ...

Страница 56: ...unction 2 m 6 5 ft 1 Black Battery 2 Blue External Alarm 3 Yellow Power Control 4 Red Battery 12 24V DC Video Data Video Data Connector 1 7 6 5 4 3 2 8 Video Cable 000 00129 001 Pin Wire Colour Function 1 Red coax Video 1 Ground 2 Video 1 3 Green coax Video 2 Ground 4 Video 2 5 Blue TX_B RS232 GND 6 Yellow TX_A 7 Orange RX_B RS232 GND 8 Green RX_A 16 ...

Страница 57: ...1 CAN_H 2 SimNet power 12 V DC 3 SimNet power 4 Shield 5 CAN_L Network Ethernet NETWORK Ethernet Connector 1 5 4 3 2 Pin Function 1 TX 2 TX 3 RX 4 RX 5 Gnd Echosounder Echosounder Connector 1 2 3 4 5 7 6 Pin Function 1 Depth 2 Speed 3 Speed power 4 Temp 5 Depth 6 Shield 7 Temp speed Gnd Accessories 17 ...

Страница 58: ...55M EXTENSION CABLE 000 0119 83 N2KEXT 25RD 25 7 58M EXTENSION CABLE 000 0127 45 SIMNET NMEA2000 ADAPTER KIT SIMNET CABLE JOINER CABLE MICRO C MALE to SIMNET 0 5M N2K T RD T CONNECTOR 24005729 SimNet to Micro C male plug 0 5m cable for connection of a SimNet device to a NMEA2000 backbone 24006199 SimNet to Micro C female plug 1m cable for connection of a NMEA2000 device to SimNet backbone 24006413...

Страница 59: ... Heading Track Control 127245 Rudder 127250 Vessel Heading 127251 Rate of Turn 127257 Attitude 127258 Magnetic Variation 127488 Engine Parameters Rapid Update 127489 Engine Parameters Dynamic 127493 Transmission Parameters Dynamic 127503 AC input status 127504 AC Output Status 127505 Fluid Level 127506 DC Detailed Status 127507 Charger Status 127508 Battery Status 127509 Inverter Status 128259 Spe...

Страница 60: ...a 130310 Environmental Parameters 130311 Environmental Parameters 130312 Temperature 130313 Humidity 130314 Actual Pressure 130576 Small Craft Status 130577 Direction Data 130840 Data User Group Configuration 130842 SimNet DSC Message 130845 Parameter Handle 130850 Event Command 130851 Event Reply 130817 Product Info 130820 Reprogram Status 130831 Suzuki Engine and Storage Device Config 130832 Fue...

Страница 61: ...e 129029 GNSS Position Data 129283 Cross Track Error 129284 Navigation Data 129285 Route Waypoint Data 129539 GNSS DOPs 129540 GNSS Sats in View 130074 Route and WP Service WP List WP Name Position 130306 Wind Data 130310 Environmental Parameters 130311 Environmental Parameters 130312 Temperature 130577 Direction Data 130840 Data User Group Configuration 130845 Parameter Handle 130850 Event Comman...

Страница 62: ...VTG ZDA Navigation Receive RMC Transmit AAM APB BOD BWC BWR RMC RMB XTE XDR Echo Receive DBT DPT MTW VLW VHW Transmit DBT DPT MTW VLW VHW Compass Receive HDG HDT HDM Transmit HDG Wind Receive MWV MWD Transmit MWV MWD AIS DSC Receive DSC DSE VDM AIS sentences are not bridged to or from SimNet MARPA Transmit TLL TTM These are only output sentences ...

Страница 63: ...stic housing Die cast rear heatsink Temperature 15 C to 55 C 5 F to 131 F Waterproof standard IPx7 Declaration of conformity Part 15 103 FCC rules C Tick CE RTTE directive 1999 5 EC level 2 devices Radio comms Electromagnetic Compatibility standard 2008 Interface Ethernet 1 Port 1 Port 3 Ports NMEA2000 Micro C 1 Video input Composite video 2 multiplexed Data card slot Micro SD 1 Other Weight displ...

Страница 64: ...64 Specifications Zeus Touch installation manual ...

Страница 65: ... 65 Specifications Zeus Touch installation manual ...

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