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User Guide 

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For Soundcraft Si Impact Console

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Page 1: ...User Guide V1 6 For Soundcraft Si Impact Console...

Page 2: ...er is encouraged to try to correct the interference by one or more of the following measures Reorient or relocate the receiving antenna Increase the separation between the equipment and the receiver C...

Page 3: ...Mix Outputs Setup 6 5 FX Busses 7 0 DSP Elements 7 1 Function Focus 7 2 ACS Channel Strip Elements 7 2 1 ACS Input 7 2 2 ACS Gate 7 2 3 ACS Compressor 7 2 4 ACS Equaliser 7 2 5 ACS Output 7 3 Control...

Page 4: ...Up to 40 channels to mix 32 Mono input channels 4 Stereo input channels Soundcraft 4 band British EQ on all inputs and outputs Soundcraft Dynamics available on all channels Delay available on all cha...

Page 5: ...d with the letter L Ensure that these colour codings are followed carefully in the event of the plug being changed This unit is capable of operating over a range of mains voltages as marked on the rea...

Page 6: ...apparatus has been damaged in any way such as power supply cord or plug is damaged liquid has been spilled or objects have fallen into the apparatus the apparatus has been exposed to rain or moisture...

Page 7: ...ich your console arrived forms part of the product and must be retained for future use NOTE This equipment has been tested and found to comply with the limits for a Class A digital device pursuant to...

Page 8: ...the End User whilst in transit both to and from the Dealer or Soundcraft and postage must be prepaid 4 This warranty shall only be available if a The Equipment has been properly installed in accordan...

Page 9: ...Q 6 0 3 Shelf HF 800Hz 20kHz 15dB Shelf LF 20Hz 500Hz 15dB HPF 40Hz 1kHz Delay User adjustable delay 1sample 500ms GEQ 31Hz 16KHz 1 3 octave Digital I O External Word Clock In range 48kHz 7Hz internal...

Page 10: ...h we do recommend you take the time to go through it An excellent place to start would be the feature list on the introductory page chapter reference 1 0 which will familiarise you with all of the mai...

Page 11: ...an be controlled by any Control Channel these elements are considered separate in this manual Section 5 deals with the console s patching system which connects physical inputs and outputs to DSP chann...

Page 12: ...User Manual 2 2 PARTS OF THE CONSOLE GETTING STARTED PARTS OF THE CONSOLE 2 2 GETTING STARTED PARTS OF THE CONSOLE...

Page 13: ...User Manual 2 2 PARTS OF THE CONSOLE GETTING STARTED PARTS OF THE CONSOLE 2 2 GETTING STARTED PARTS OF THE CONSOLE...

Page 14: ...r in a hurry The main principle of FaderGlow is to indicate the current fader function with colour so more immediate recognition is possible Soundcraft FaderGlow is fitted to all console faders that c...

Page 15: ...of the Control Channels and Faders The main assignable controls on the console are Control Channels These are the vertical strips containing a Fader Encoder Status Meter screen plus the SOLO SEL and O...

Page 16: ...rs for convenient control Each layer is made up of 24 Control Channels plus the Left Right and Mono Centre main mix Control Channels By default Layers A and B are assigned to input channels with the S...

Page 17: ...indicators plus ON SOLO and SEL buttons The SEL button is used to focus the Assignable Channel Strip ACS on that channel The DSP channel controlled by a Control Channel is determined by the current Fa...

Page 18: ...rol channel though you cannot assign more than one channel or VCA Master to a single Control Channel Fader Bank Shows the currently selected Fader Layer This parameter cannot be edited in the menu use...

Page 19: ...a scrollable list of available Stereo Input Channel names Assign Mixes Assign a MIX Master channel to the currently selected Control Channel Touching the value field will bring up a scrollable list o...

Page 20: ...NSERT BLANK right for example will push all Control Channels to the right of the currently selected slot one slot to the right The rightmost control channel will be lost You will be asked to confirm t...

Page 21: ...ACS you can control all input EQ dynamics and output functions available to the selected channel Adjusting an ACS control will trigger the Function Focus feature and the console Touch Screen will ref...

Page 22: ...then pressing the MIX 1 tOTEM button will assign all channel faders to control the Mix 1 sends for those channels and the Mono control channel fader to control of the Mix 1 Master This allows one touc...

Page 23: ...y as well as settings for inputs outputs monitoring the solo system plus a frequency response type display of the 4 band EQ MENU Access the Touch Screen Main Menu Encoder Scroll or adjust parameters a...

Page 24: ...w load reset functions for show files Isolate settings are used to isolate parameters from show recalls See section 9 1 Show Storage and recall for more detail The RESET CONFIG function forces the con...

Page 25: ...tup and patching of the four available insert sends and returns See section 5 Inputs Outputs For more information Remember an insert interrupts signal flow so if an insert is assigned to a channel the...

Page 26: ...ion OSC Settings and operations for the built in Oscillator Routing waveform frequency and output options See section 13 for more detail OUTPUTS Output channel specific settings The menu will show Nam...

Page 27: ...ocket The console does have a factory default patching configuration which is used whenever the console is reset to its default SYSTEM menu RESET PATCHING or RESET ALL Additionally the console has two...

Page 28: ...ent patch For example if the Stereo Input channel ST 01 shows LINE IN1 in the Input Patch menu item then the left channel will be patched to LINE IN1 and the right channel will be patched to LINE IN2...

Page 29: ...to assign insert points to channels and use the INSERT SETUP button on the same screen to assign insert sends and returns to physical out puts Currently digital inputs are available for insert return...

Page 30: ...ved in show files and Mic Gain and 48V values can be recalled with snapshots Snapshot recall of these values can also be disabled with the ISOLATE feature Network Settings The first step to configurin...

Page 31: ...ut Channel and the last set gain value Node Address Set the Soundweb London devices node address to send and receive HiQnet values to your Si console The node address can be found and adjusted in Lond...

Page 32: ...ic Line In 1 24 Channels 1 24 Fader Layer A slots 1 24 XLR Jack Combo Mic Line In 25 32 Channels 25 32 Fader Layer B slots 1 8 Unassigned inputs x 12 Channels 33 44 Fader Layer B slots 9 20 Stereo FX...

Page 33: ...le for use with a wide range of ViSi I O cards Currently available ViSi modules are shown 5 3 1 More detailed instructions for the installed MADI USB card are detailed in 5 4 The ViSi Connect I O is p...

Page 34: ...ual Port CAT5 MADI redundant link Dual Port Multi Mode SC Optical MADI redundant link AES 3 XLR 4ch in 4ch out on XLRs AES D Type 8ch in 8ch out 25 way D SUB connector Multi Digital Card 32 in 32 out...

Page 35: ...ECT CARDS BLU Link 32 x 32 interface to Soundweb London digital audio bus Aviom A Net 16 output channels CAT5 Pro 16 head CobraNet Up to 32 in and 32 out MADI USB 32 in 64 out MADI 32 in out USB OR 64...

Page 36: ...ries consoles via a MADI card fitted to the option card slot Soundcraft Compact Stagebox A high density of I O connections in only 4U of rack space The modular unit is fully configurable but is offere...

Page 37: ...r more MADI inputs are possible at the expense of the USB inputs which would give 64 MADI inputs 64 MADI outputs and 32 USB outputs NO USB inputs NOTE By Default the Si Impact card is set up to handle...

Page 38: ...witch 1 should be set OFF To connect two consoles together using two MADI USB Combo cards for a master client type operation the card within the master console should be set to sync to the Mixer switc...

Page 39: ...audio data that is stored before being released into the application A large buffer size results in higher latency to your DAW A small buffer size reduces the latency to your DAW but can cause audio...

Page 40: ...al basic channels and busses These are mono and stereo input channels mono and stereo Mix Busses and MIX output master channels MIX 1 14 internal FX send mix busses FX 1 4 stereo Matrix mix busses and...

Page 41: ...ich feed the Mix Bus Master channels the Main L R and Mono Centre mix busses or to the FX send busses which get routed to the internal Lexicon FX There are three taps for these bus contributions Pre D...

Page 42: ...User Manual 6 1 INPUT CHANNELS CHANNELS BUSSES INPUT CHANNELS 6 1 CHANNELS BUSSES INPUT CHANNELS...

Page 43: ...his channel will not be affected and its setting will not be changed However current channel settings are still stored when a cue is stored Please note To prevent conflict Isolation function does not...

Page 44: ...he pan law when in LCR mode is active to increase decrease the contributions to the LR and Mono buses when panning DirectOut Patch Choose an analogue or digital output for this channel s Direct Output...

Page 45: ...elected You can access Mix Master channels via the Fader Layers FADERS button group or by selecting the bus mix via the tOTEM buttons The Fader Layer C is the default layer for the Mix Masters though...

Page 46: ...User Manual 6 2 MIX OUTPUTS CHANNELS BUSSES MIX OUTPUTS 6 2 CHANNELS BUSSES MIX OUTPUTS...

Page 47: ...ored when a cue is stored Mix Width Select Mono or Stereo width for this Mix Bus Note only Mix busses 7 14 can be switched to stereo Mix busses 1 8 are mono only There are various Mix Output specific...

Page 48: ...el Pan contributions to this bus will be panned the same as each input channel s Pan control or Bus Inverts Channel Pan Contributions to this bus will be panned opposite to each channel s Pan control...

Page 49: ...busses and masters are stereo and the Matrix Master channels have two patchable stereo outputs each Left and Right of both outputs are interdependently patchable All Matrix channels include a Graphic...

Page 50: ...User Manual 6 3 MATRIX OUTPUTS CHANNELS BUSSES MATRIX OUTPUTS 6 3 CHANNELS BUSSES MATRIX OUTPUTS...

Page 51: ...be changed However current channel settings are still stored when a cue is stored Matrix Width Choose Mono or Stereo type for the Matrix Master Output Patching Choose specific analogue or digital outp...

Page 52: ...output channel which is permanently assigned to the Left Right Control Channel The Mono bus feeds the main Mono Centre output channel that during normal operation is controlled by the MONO SEL contro...

Page 53: ...will not be changed However current channel settings are still stored when a cue is stored Patching Choose specific analogue and digital outputs for this DSP Channel Touching the value fields will br...

Page 54: ...1 4 are used exclusively to feed the internal Lexicon FX units They receive input from the Input Channels Those contributions are accessed via the FX 1 4 tOTEM buttons Management of the Lexicon FX is...

Page 55: ...common DSP processing elements and controls via the Control Channel and Assignable Control Section ACS This chapter explains those elements and their controls Please note some elements will not be ava...

Page 56: ...ou are currently adjusting and any other controls in its group plus the channel name and alternate units for the same control For example DELAY is illustrated in ms milliseconds feet and meters while...

Page 57: ...ating to that It is broken down into logical sections making it easy to identify control groups and functions at a glance There is a dedicated control for each function and each control has a dedicate...

Page 58: ...graph The scale is relative to digital full scale so 0dBfs is the maximum before clipping For input channels the meter source is PRE just after the analogue to digital conversion but before the rest o...

Page 59: ...just before the cut off frequency Use it to filter out low frequency rumble and clean up live microphone feeds for example GAIN TRIM Adjust mic gain or line trim for input channels The control changes...

Page 60: ...in input voice instrument etc is silent This gate includes a Sidechain Filter section This allows you to control what frequency range is compared to the threshold level For instance you could limit th...

Page 61: ...S C HPF Adjust the Sidechain High Pass Filter This filter cuts out low frequencies Gate Status LEDs Indicate the current operating status of the gate OPEN inactive the gate is passing signal and audi...

Page 62: ...sing the peak level or to control overly dynamic sources ATTACK Adjust the Attack time of the Compressor The time it takes for the compression function to reach full attenuation after the threshold ha...

Page 63: ...10dB above threshold comes in it will be attenuated to 5dB 5dB above threshold which is 10dB divided by 2 In the same instance if the ratio was 5 1 then the signal would be attenuated to 8dB which is...

Page 64: ...filter will boost or cut the signal at this frequency by the amount set by HF Level The cut off frequency will be lower according to the filter slope HF Q Adjust the Q of the HF filter and switch bel...

Page 65: ...the Touch Screen with the Function Focus feature HI MID FREQ Adjust the centre frequency of the HI MID filter Frequencies above and below this within the bounds of the Q setting will be affected by th...

Page 66: ...fectively sets the width bandwidth of the filter s bell shape and FREQ sets the frequency at the centre of the bell shape LF Level Adjust the boost attenuation of the LF bell filter EQ On Off Switch t...

Page 67: ...ut and Mix Bus Master output channels not Matrix master channels DELAY Adjust the delay applied to this DSP Channel ACS units are milliseconds though the Touch Screen will show feet and meters as well...

Page 68: ...e Main Left Right Stereo Bus Any channels routed to LR will be summed into the Main LR Master Output Channel controlled by the L R Control Channel M Main Mono Centre Bus Routing Route the selected cha...

Page 69: ...l channel positions are assigned to channels using the Touch Screen FADER SETUP menu see section 3 2 1 Gate Closed X Indicates the selected channel s gate is closed Channel Name Function Text screen p...

Page 70: ...ow Mode tOTEM button selected Switches the send from that channel to the selected bus on or off GEQ Mode GEQ HI or GEQ LO FADERS button selected Resets the GEQ band to 0dB ON button will be red when a...

Page 71: ...r more information of the console s Solo system FADER Adjust signal level Audio channel VCA level FOLLOW MODE tOTEM button selected Send level form channel to selected bus GEQ Mode GEQ HI or GEQ LO FA...

Page 72: ...up will assign 14 bands to the Control Channel Faders colour coded with red FaderGlow Faders are centre 0dB posi tion detented with in use as GEQ bands The Bands for High and Low GEQ sections are mark...

Page 73: ...s LR Mono bus masters must be selected for this button to have any effect ON red Lighted red to indicate an active non zero GEQ band Press to zero that band This ON button mode is only active while GE...

Page 74: ...te up to eight VCA Groups using the VCA SETUP button and the Mute VCA group Master buttons 1 8 8 3 Copy Paste Copy then Paste whole channels channel sections FX settings and Mix bus FX send and Matrix...

Page 75: ...r hold Interrogate Mute Groups This mode allows you to configure Mute Group assignments in conjunction with the Mute Group Masters buttons 1 8 The button illuminates Red when active To Interrogate Mut...

Page 76: ...lected Mute Group CLR Clear Selection While in Mute Group Setup mode holding the CLR button and pressing a Mute Group Master button will clear that Mute Group ALT CLR Clear all While in Mute Group Set...

Page 77: ...r example you could put the whole drum kit under the control of a single VCA Master or if you have a multiple mics on a guitar cabinet you could set the ratios with individual channels and then create...

Page 78: ...member faders so it s a good idea to set group members and the Master to nominal levels When assigned VCA Master Faders start at 0dB VCA VCA Group Setup Enter VCA Group SETUP mode or hold Interrogate...

Page 79: ...tus indication Red illuminated ON buttons indicate a channel that has either been muted by a VCA Master or a Mute Group Master Green ON buttons indicate an active un muted channel and an unlit ON butt...

Page 80: ...the state of that selection If you have a channel selected that channel s processing except GAIN or 48V status is copied if you have a bus mix selected via the FADER FOL LOW tOTEM buttons that bus mix...

Page 81: ...EM button selected you can use COPY PASTE mode to copy and paste an entire MIX MTX or FX Bus Mix For example you could copy the MIX 1 contribution levels from all Input Chan nels and paste those level...

Page 82: ...els the current Fader Layer must include input channels 2 Press and hold the ACS button for the chosen function HPF GATE EQ LR and so on The SEL Select buttons of any channels where that function is a...

Page 83: ...ion If only a single input channel is soloed then PFL routing will be used If two or more input channels or any output channel are soloed then AFL routing will be used You can also set the Input Solo...

Page 84: ...atus Indicators Indicators light to show Solo mode status If only a single input channel is soloed then PFL routing will be used If two or more input channels or any output channel are soloed then AFL...

Page 85: ...e Set the Input Solo Mode to Auto AFL or PFL In Auto Mode the console chooses Pre fade Listen solo PFL when only one Input Channel is soloed or After Fader Listen AFL when more than one Input Channel...

Page 86: ...ing level is normally controlled by the MON LEVEL encoder though Main Fader and Mon Level Encoder functionality can be swapped using the LR Mon Level Swap parameter in the Monitor Settings Menu There...

Page 87: ...tch Patching for the monitor output is specified in the separate Monitor L R OutPatch menu item below Mono Check Outputs a mono sum of the stereo monitor signal This adds left and right monitor output...

Page 88: ...eters channels and bus mixes across the whole of the console CLR Functions CLR SEL button Channels Reset all audio parameters within the channel or bus to the factory defaults does not affect function...

Page 89: ...e selected VCA Master ALT CLR Functions ALT CLR SEL Reset all audio parameters in all like for like channels across the whole console does not affect functions such as SOLO bus type names patching and...

Page 90: ...TX 1 14 Resets all channels contributions to all four Matrix busses to zero It Does not affect the Matrix bus master channels or master levels ALT CLR Any Mute Master Button While in MUTE setup mode C...

Page 91: ...9 0 SHOWS CUELIST AND SNAPSHOTS The console file system uses the Show as it s basic file The Show contains all console settings plus the Cuelist The Cuelist contains recallable Cues that contain Snaps...

Page 92: ...ole automation snapshot recall rather than Show loading NEW SHOW Create a new Show A new show deletes all cues and their associated events but retains names audio settings patches and similar since th...

Page 93: ...O systems that may have been attached to the console then forces a re discovery of any installed option cards or connected I O system such as a Soundcraft Stagebox The system will provide a warning t...

Page 94: ...ent When you store a cue you also take a snapshot to be stored with that cue The console s Cuelist is a list of cues that can be recalled when required The Cuelist is stored within a Show see 9 1 The...

Page 95: ...Snapshot will be added to the end of the Cuelist and named automatically Unnamed Snapshot n where n is the snapshot s numbered position in the Cuelist Remember that the number in the snapshot name an...

Page 96: ...ove the currently highlighted Cue up one in the Cue List This action affects the currently highlighted Cue which is not necessarily the currently active Cue Up means to the next lower numbered Cue Num...

Page 97: ...User Manual SHOWS CUELIST CUELIST SNAPSHOTS 9 2 SHOWS CUELIST CUELIST SNAPSHOTS HiQnet Status Highlighted orange if there is an active HiQnet transmit active in the Cue 9 2 CUELIST SNAPSHOTS...

Page 98: ...s and control between audio system components The console can send HiQnet venue presets when Cues are recalled Cue Name Edit the name of the current Snapshot Cue Brings up the Touch Screen QWERTY keyb...

Page 99: ...M buttons which assigns each channel s contribution to the selected bus to its fader The Stereo Return channel is assigned to the MONO SEL Control Channel on the right hand end of the console Return R...

Page 100: ...ouch to select an FX processor or adjust a selected parameter Parameter adjustment Touch the parameter on the screen then adjust with the ADJUST SCROLL encoder Storage All Parameters from the four FX...

Page 101: ...ients like a voice Drum Hall has a higher diffusion setting which is necessary to smooth out faster transient signals found in drums and percussion instruments In addition to general instrumental and...

Page 102: ...a micro phone connected by a simple set of springs The characteristic boing of a spring is an important component of many classic rock and rockabilly guitar sounds Reverse Reverb Reverse reverb works...

Page 103: ...ettings shorten reverb times and should be used when a smaller apparent space or a more subtle effect is desired ER Level Early Reflections Level Adjust the level of early reflections within the rever...

Page 104: ...e large flat walls cause low diffusion For drums and percussion try using higher Diffusion settings Bass Bst Bass Boost Boost or cut frequencies below the Bass Boost Frequency the transition point fro...

Page 105: ...by an LFO low frequency oscillator that produces a chorusing effect on the delay repeats This is a great delay for guitar and instrument passages that need that special something Mono Delay The Mono...

Page 106: ...and Pong Delay Hi Pass Frequencies below this are filtered removed Lo Pass Frequencies above this are filtered removed Duck Lvl Duck Level Set the input signal level at which ducking occurs Studio Mo...

Page 107: ...ffect this controls the delay time offset between left and right taps expressed as a ratio of left to right time difference In the centre the taps have the same time 1 1 Swap Tap Swap Swaps the delay...

Page 108: ...s an AutoPanner effect is generat ed with the amplitude of one channel being raised whilst that of the other channel is lowered Vibrato Vibrato is obtained by smoothly varying the pitch of the signal...

Page 109: ...r of additional Chorus voices Higher amounts add more richness to the Chorus effect Regeneration Controls the amount of modulated signal being fed back into the input creating feedback Higher amounts...

Page 110: ...This control affects the output of the LFO only It has no effect on the outputs of the individual waveforms Phs Stgs Phase Stages Selects between a 4 8 or 12 state phase shifter Spread Stereo Spread I...

Page 111: ...speed limits are used when the speed parameter is changed from Slow to Fast Doppler Increases or decreases the Doppler pitch effect The Doppler effect is a rise and fall in pitch experienced by an ob...

Page 112: ...For creating cascading arpeggio type effects Pan n Sets the pan position in the stereo field for each tap in the 2 Tap Delay or each channel of the pitch shift detune effects Allows the stereo width t...

Page 113: ...puts levels 11 2 SYSTEM The System menu provides information about the console itself as well as offering settings for the console name date time wordclock and network settings for HiQnet and Soundweb...

Page 114: ...nable LED Brightness Adjust the brightness of LEDs across the console This includes all Encoder level indicators metering and status LEDs FaderGlow Brightness Adjust the FaderGlow brightness across th...

Page 115: ...On D O G S Enable Disable Direct Out Gain Stabiliser system D O G S is a tool that prevents Direct Output levels from changing when a Mic Gain is changed so any feeds taken from the console remain st...

Page 116: ...NELS Reset all Input audio channels to factory default Includes all Input Channel audio parameters channel name and channel type Mono Linked It does not include patching You will be asked to confirm t...

Page 117: ...will be asked to confirm this action in the Touch Screen Software Version Current software version Read only EVENT LOG A log of specific system events Can be useful for trouble shooting and for techni...

Page 118: ...effect Wordclock Choose an Internal External or Option card wordclock reference The console can be set as Word Clock Client EXTernal or OPTION or Master INTernal When set to EXTernal the console will...

Page 119: ...ty On of Off This console can transmit HiQnet Venue Events on the network along with cue recalls Please see chapter ref erence 9 2 for more detail The console can also control Soundweb London Device P...

Page 120: ...they are created Editing of users and profiles is only available when logged on as the administrator Please note Passwords cannot be easily recovered if lost or forgotten The factory default Administ...

Page 121: ...ly recovered if lost or forgotten DELETE USER Delete the selected User The system will ask for confirmation in the Touch Screen to confirm this action User Select Select A User from the current list Y...

Page 122: ...er reference 11 3 2 for more detail User Name Name the User Touching or selecting the value field brings up a QWERTY keyboard in the Touch Screen Profile Profile Name Use the Profiles Menu to add and...

Page 123: ...l 11 3 1 ADD EDIT USER SYSTEM SETTINGS SECURITY ADD EDIT USER 11 3 1 SETTINGS SECURITY ADD EDIT USER CANCEL Cancel the current User creation or edit without saving any altered values SAVE Save the cur...

Page 124: ...ut On Faders GEQ Fader Layer A Fader Layer B Fader Layer C Fader Layer D FX Touch Screen and Cue List NOTE If a Cue recall will change an aspect of console functionality that is locked but Cue List fu...

Page 125: ...ITY PROFILES CANCEL Cancel the current Profile creation or edit without saving any altered values SAVE Save the current Profile Profile Select a profile to view or edit Touch or select the value field...

Page 126: ...ove any USB keys 3 Press and hold the recessed BOOT LOADER button on the rear of the console use a thin blunt tool to access it while you turn the console on using the power switch A Software Loader s...

Page 127: ...the RESET options in the SYSTEM menu to set parameters and settings back to factory default without destroying data Remember All settings cues users profiles and shows will be lost 1 Starting with the...

Page 128: ...to route directly to the console s LR and MONO buses though you can route the Oscillator signal to a Mix bus master then use the LR and MONO routing keys Oscillator patching is stored in Snapshots Os...

Page 129: ...e Set the signal type for the Oscillator output Either Sine Wave or Pink Noise Full spectrum equal power per octave Oscillator Out Patch Set a physical output for the Oscillator signal Touching or sel...

Page 130: ...isted at 5 2 You can check which Control Channel is controlling which Input Channel in the FADER SETUP menu See 3 2 1 You can check which physical input is patched to an Input Channel by selecting the...

Page 131: ...id patches and that the signal is being returned from an external processor for example Reference section 5 1 has specific information on Insert patching Is the Channel on and unmuted If a Control Cha...

Page 132: ...ster Channel Path valid Almost exactly the same checks as above can be done on the Output Master Channel whether it s a MIX MATRIX or LR M Master For detailed path troubleshooting check the signal pat...

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