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Blinds and switch actuator RMG 8, blinds actuator JMG 4 
and switch actuator module RME 8 - EIB

 

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As of: Apr-06 (Subject to change without notice)

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4.4.2  Determining the Slippage Compensation of the Drive Mechanisms 

 

Refer to table 1-6: Expert parameters on the "Drives general" ETS tab 
 
Due to the increased drive load, the asynchronous motor can perform lowering operations faster than 
raising operations. In the field of electrical engineering, this effect is referred to as slippage. 
 
To be able to calculate the exact position, this slip must be entered in the ETS on the "Drives general" 
tab. 
 
When observing the setting instructions and using high-quality blinds, identical height and angle 
positions can be reached directly from any position without unnecessary travel times. 
 
For correctly determining the slippage, the parameter Full running time "down" (see top of page) must 
be set as accurately as possible. 
 

Procedure: 

 

 

Set the following parameters in the ETS on the "Drives general" tab:

 

 

 

 

Have the drive mechanism travel to the top position until the LED on the actuator goes out. 

 

Lower the drive mechanism to the 20 % position using the Height [%] object. 

 

Mark the position reached or measure the height. 

 

Have the drive mechanism travel to the 80 % position using the Height [%] object. 

 

Have the drive mechanism travel repeatedly between the 20 % and the 80 % positions using the 
Height [%] object. 

 

Finally, set the drive mechanism to the 20 % position again. 

 

The difference in height / the offset between the marked position and the last position attained is 
an indicator of the slippage. 

 
The evaluation can be performed either by way of mathematics or empiricism: 
 

 

In the case of the 

empirical method

, the slippage is repeatedly adjusted and the drive mechanism 

raised/lowered between the 20 % and 80 % positions (see procedure described above) until the 
offset is minimized. 

 

 

In the case of the 

mathematical evaluation

, the offset is related to the single travel distance with 

a percentage: 

  

Slippage [%] = (L

v

 *100) / (L

total

 * n) 

 

where  

n  

= the number of raising operations

 

 

 

L

v

  

= the measured offset 

 

 

L

total

 

= the distance between the 20 % and 80 % positions 

 
Example: travel distance from 20% to 80%: 200 cm, offset: 4.8 cm, number of raising operations from 
80% to 20%: 3

 

 

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Page 1: ...e RME 8 EIB theben As of Apr 06 Subject to change without notice Page 1 of 36 RMG 8 Switch Actuator RME 8 RMX 4 Switch Actuator Modules JMG 4 Blinds Actuator for JMG 4 refer to Chapter 1 3 JMG 4 490 0 250 RMG 8 490 0 251 RME 8 490 0 252 RMX 4 490 0 256 Key for JMG 4 RMG 8 907 0 304 ...

Page 2: ...s Drive Controller 18 3 4 5 Channel X Y Parameterised for 2 Switching Outputs 20 4 Commissioning 22 4 1 Reaction without ETS Programming 22 4 2 ETS Programming without Mains Voltage 22 4 3 Standard Drive Application 22 4 4 Expert drive application 24 4 4 1 Determining the Exact Full Running Time Down 24 4 4 2 Determining the Slippage Compensation of the Drive Mechanisms 27 4 4 3 Feedback of the Dr...

Page 3: ...ff operations delay times can be individually set As a pulsing function activation restricted by timeout As an automatic time switch for staircase lighting with cut out early warning after the preset time has elapsed the light is switched off temporarily for 0 25 s and then switched on again for 30s Several inhibit and control objects enable a remote control of the connected devices e g central ra...

Page 4: ...ghting period can be extended by repeated actuation of the switch when a person has to clean the staircase etc Cut out early warning function in compliance with DIN 18015 2 Simple input of the execution times in the ETS Large scope of functions due to 47 objects Even with traditional drive mechanisms any desired position can be approached due to the slippage compensation Forced object all drives u...

Page 5: ...greenhouses and winter gardens Lighting buildings and staircases Delayed activation deactivation of groups of lights Short or long pulses for end of break gongs toilet flushing installations or ventilation systems 1 3 Differences between RMG 8 and JMG 4 As opposed to RMG 8 JMG 4 is a pure drive controller and not a switch actuator The drive functions of the JMG 4 are completely identical to those ...

Page 6: ...oltage and a separate A C power supply Connections 1 bus connection RMG 8 and JMG 4 only 1 power connection 4 channels 2 for the RMX 4 consisting of 2 relays each n o contact Protection rating IP 20 in compliance with DIN EN 60 529 Protection class II following proper installation Permissible ambient temperature 5 C to 45 C 5T45 Housing dimensions 45 x 105 x 60 mm 45x53 5x60mm RMX 4 v H W D Weight...

Page 7: ... lamp 1400 W Power consumption of the halogen lamp 1400 W Conv tubular fluorescent lamps uncompensated compensated in series 19 x 40 W 13 x 58 W 8 x 100 W compensated in parallel 5 x 40 W 4 7 μF 3 x 58 W 7 0 μF 1 x 100 W 18 μF dual switch 6 x 2 x 58 W 4 x 2 x 100 W Fluorescent flashlights with ECG 4 x 58 W Tubular fluorescent lamps with ECG dual switch 2 x 2 x 58 W Mercury discharge lamps uncompen...

Page 8: ...and switch actuator RMG 8 blinds actuator JMG 4 and switch actuator module RME 8 EIB theben As of Apr 06 Subject to change without notice Page 8 of 36 2 3 Connection Diagram Connecting the EIB Installation Bus ...

Page 9: ...s used to define which channels are to be parameterised as drive controller and which are to be parameterised as switching channels Drive 1 to 4 to 8 Is displayed when the respective channel is parameterised as a drive controller Channel 1 1 1 2 4 1 4 2 8 1 8 2 Is displayed when the respective channel is parameterised as a switching channel IMPORTANT After downloading the application or after the ...

Page 10: ... example 3 3 2 Overview 3 3 2 1 Channel Parameterised as a Drive Mechanism When the channel is parameterised as a drive mechanism you can select the type of element that is to be driven see the table below Selected type of driven element Object no Property Roller shutter textile sunshade Blinds Name Drive 1 up down Function up down Type 1 Bit 0 Reaction receive Name Drive 1 stop Drive 1 step stop ...

Page 11: ...lse function ON OFF delay Name Channel 1 1 switch Channel 1 1 staircase time switch Channel 1 1 impulse Channel 1 1 switch Function ON OFF Start stop Delayed ON OFF Type 1 Bit 0 Reaction receive Name Channel 1 1 state Function Feedback Type 1 Bit 1 Reaction send Name Channel 1 2 switch Channel 1 2 staircase time switch Channel 1 2 impulse Channel 1 2 switch Function ON OFF Start stop Delayed ON OF...

Page 12: ...se time has elapsed or when a 0 is sent to the object the relay switches off Channel 1 1 delayed ON OFF If a 1 is sent to the object the relay switches on after the parameterised period of delay If a 0 is sent the delay refers to the switch off time Special cases A 0 sent during the switch on delay period or a 1 sent during the switch off delay period interrupts the procedure Object 1 Name refer t...

Page 13: ...s object 0 for channel 1 1 Object 3 Name refer to the overview Function Drive 1 slats Presetting of a specific slat turn value in Can be inhibited by the Auto comfort object see below Channel 1 2 state Same function as object 1 for channel 1 1 Object 4 Name refer to the overview Function Drive 1 auto comfort Sending a 1 to this object inhibits the functions Drive 1 height and Drive 1 slats This fu...

Page 14: ...ard operating status is assumed In the case of a storm the wind sensor sends a 1 to the security object and the sunshade is immediately retracted to the parameterised safety position IMPORTANT A security object may be controlled by one device only Otherwise different commands may cancel each other Annotation Reading the security objects i e with read value function of ETS software If the security ...

Page 15: ...e 0 forced obj inactive 1 up 0 down Object 45 Name refer to the overview Function Central permanent ON For controlling switching outputs Using this object all the switching channels parameterised accordingly can be controlled from one central point In this case for example all the lights on one floor with the highest priority can be switched on simultaneously by pressing one button refer to the ap...

Page 16: ...vice keys are always enabled only enabled if theben key for JMG 4 RMG 8 item no 907 0 304 is plugged Key lock deactivated If the option only enabled if key is plugged is selected the device keyboard is locked and manual operation is possible only if a key is inserted in the interface on the front of the device Manual mode automatically cleared after 30 min permanent Function of the manual button o...

Page 17: ...ors connected to the security objects send cyclically the cycle time i e the time interval between 2 telegrams must be entered here Recommendation The monitoring time of the actuator must be twice as long as the cycle time of the device to be monitored Example If the air speed meter sends to the security object 1 every 5 minutes set the monitoring time to 10 minutes Allocation of the 0 Position to...

Page 18: ...lind The type of device that is to be driven Full running time down 50 10 000 x 0 1s Keyboard input 50 to 10 000 Enter the measured runtime in 10th of a second 10 1 s 100 10 s etc Full Slats turn 20 200 x 20 ms Keyboard input 20 to 200 Enter the measured turning time of the slats in steps of 20 ms 100 100 x 20 ms 2 s Step time for object step stop shutter 3 55 x 20 ms Keyboard input 3 to 55 Desire...

Page 19: ...e driven element to the parameterised security position Dependence on object Drives central up down no yes Is this drive to react to the Drives central up down object Behaviour after BUS voltage loss upper end of travel lower end of travel unchanged After a bus failure with existing power supply the drive move the driven element to a preferred position e g open the roller shutter Behaviour after B...

Page 20: ... defined status after a bus failure This is important for consumers e g that must not continue operation without control Behaviour after BUS recovery unchanged switch ON switch OFF trigger timer Similar to the previous row Important for consumers e g that must not start operating again without control Behaviour at mains voltage recovery without BUS voltage switch ON remain OFF restore previous rel...

Page 21: ... of a time base and a factor refer to the description of the parameters for the staircase time switch Factor for impulse width 1 255 x Time base Keyboard input 1 to 255 The impulse width is equal to the time base multiplied by the factor Example Time base 10 s x factor 2 is 2 x 10 s 20 s Parameters for ON OFF delay Time base for ON and OFF delay 1 sec 10 sec 30 sec 1 min The two delay times ON and...

Page 22: ...outputs for upward movements are active for approx 4 minutes 4 2 ETS Programming without Mains Voltage Basically you do not need a connection to the mains voltage to program the device using the ETS The new parameters however come into force only after bus as well as mains voltage was jointly present at least once 4 3 Standard Drive Application Enter the running time in the ETS with some reserve s...

Page 23: ...blinds until the slats no longer turn Start the slat turn with the telegram Slat with 100 FF hex The upward travel must end simultaneously with the slat turning motion Check 1 The slats do not turn when the next Up command is issued Check 2 Raise the blinds until the slats no longer turn Start the slat turn with the telegram Slat with 0 00 hex The downward travel must end simultaneously with the s...

Page 24: ...he button on the device object 0 value 1 or object 2 value 100 3 Perform a complete raising operation until the Up LED on the controller is off using the button on the device object 0 value 0 or object 2 value 0 4 Perform a complete lowering operation until the Down LED on the controller is off using the button on the device object 0 value 1 or object 2 value 100 If the distance from the lower end...

Page 25: ... is substantial increase the running time considerably Reload the application and repeat the procedure as of item 3 8 2 If the drive performs a stepwise lowering operation with further down commands steps of 100 ms extend the running time accordingly Reload the application and repeat the procedure as of item 3 8 3 The setting is valid if the end of travel has been reached or has been only slightly...

Page 26: ...es of the drive mechanism and thus prevents precise positioning to a predefined position from either direction The slippage compensation eliminates this difference to a large extent Automatic execution of object value Slats after object Height enabled disabled for measuring the slippage Selection as to whether the height adjustment is to be restored to the slats position according to the Slats obj...

Page 27: ...rive mechanism travel to the top position until the LED on the actuator goes out Lower the drive mechanism to the 20 position using the Height object Mark the position reached or measure the height Have the drive mechanism travel to the 80 position using the Height object Have the drive mechanism travel repeatedly between the 20 and the 80 positions using the Height object Finally set the drive me...

Page 28: ...MG 4 and switch actuator module RME 8 EIB theben As of Apr 06 Subject to change without notice Page 28 of 36 Slippage 4 8 100 200 3 0 8 Annotation The mechanical properties of blinds may change due to ageing thus requiring an adjustment of the settings ...

Page 29: ...ess click on the Set sending button and activate the Transmit checkbox confirm your input The same procedure can be used for the Slats object Example Address 02 0 051 Control of the drive mechanism height for several drive mechanisms Address 02 0 052 Feedback of the position of drive 4 IMPORTANT A feedback address must never be connected to another actuator input Annotation A noticeable deviation ...

Page 30: ...yboard is locked or a priority is active Also refer to the appendices Priority Order of the Switching Output Controller of the Drive Controller 5 2 Manual Mode The manual mode is selected by pressing the manual key on the device The conditions for exiting this mode can be parameterised refer to Table 1 1 Parameters on the General tab 5 2 1 Manual Mode for Drive Channels In this mode the drives can...

Page 31: ...eration without EIB voltage The actuator stores the position of the driven element after each stop This enables precise travelling to a new position from any other position To be able to perform the store the position correctly bus voltage and the application program must be present If the position of the drive is manually changed during a bus voltage failure any deviation will be compensated at t...

Page 32: ...nge without notice Page 32 of 36 6 Appendices 6 1 Priority Order of the Drive Controller 1 and is stored in the case of a mains voltage failure 2 If ETS parameter Security is selected accordingly 3 If the associated Auto comfort object 0 is active 4 If the ETS parameter Dependence on object drives central up down is set to yes ...

Page 33: ...ut Controller ON OFF Standard mode 1 If the ETS parameter Dependence on object Central permanent ON is set to yes 2 If the ETS parameter Dependence on object Central permanent OFF is set to yes 3 If the ETS parameter Dependence on object inhibit channels X X is set to yes 4 Relay statuses are retained or already issued commands are executed or replaced with the ETS settings for bus voltage failure...

Page 34: ...ains Bus ON ON B C C PRG D D E D A Case Designation active parameter or reaction A Bus voltage recovery and failure without mains voltage No reaction relay is always off B Mains voltage recovery without bus voltage Behaviour at mains voltage recovery without bus voltage C Bus voltage recovery Behaviour after bus voltage recovery D Bus voltage failure Behaviour after bus voltage loss PRG Programmin...

Page 35: ...as parameterised but is either defective or not available No EIB connection no bus voltage Power LED flashes ETS application not loaded or device is being programmed Communication problems with the ETS 1 Disconnect the EIB from the actuator 2 Press the programming button and keep it depressed 3 Connect the EIB again 4 As soon as the programming LED lights up the button can be released again Manual...

Page 36: ...1 1 Central permanent OFF Feedback C1 1 OFF Dependence on object Inhibit Dependence Staircase time switch s 30 s vorwarnen Dependence Inhibit object C1 1 C1 2 Central permanent ON S tandard On Off staircase time switch impulse ON OFFdelay Impulse On Off delay OFF ON State after BUS ON BUS OFF Main ON is retained until E changes E Standard On Off RMG8new ...

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