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between electrode and ground to insure no sparking to sensor.  Sparking 
to sensor will damage the module board. 

 

 

The electronic ignition system is made up of three main parts; the module 
board, the electrode assembly, and the electrode wire. The module board 
is the brain of the electronic ignition system and it has several functions.

 

1. 

When  the  blower  reaches  approximately  75%  of  the  normal 

r.p.m.and  sufficient  air  flow  is  established,  the  sail  switch  engages  and 
completes a 24 volt circuit through the limit switch to the module board.

 

2. 

After a 12  - 18 second delay, 24 volt current will pass through 

themodule board to the solenoid valve. The current to the valve opens it 
and  allows  gas  to  the  main  burner;  simultaneously,  the  module  board  
sends high  voltage  through  the electrode wire to the electrode assembly. 
The voltage seeks a ground between electrode and ground probe and a 
spark occurs. The spark then ignites the main burner.

 

3.

 The module board also performs the lockout function in cases where the 

spark fails to light the burner. When lockout occurs, the spark stops, the 
voltage from the module board to the gas valve is discontinued, and the 
valve closes. The unit will remain in lockout and the blower will continue to 
run until the thermostat is turned off.  Turning the thermostat off disengages 
the lockout function of the module board. After the blower has stopped, the 
ignition sequence can be started again. The module will try three times for 
ignition before lockout.

 

 

It is important to determine the type problem being experienced, then 
the proper checkout procedure can be made. The following is a list of 
problems, how to identify in which area the problem is located, and 
how to correct it.

 

1.  Electrode  not  sparking

  -  with  blower  running  and  micro  switch 

engaged, check the following:

 

a. 

Check  for  proper  voltage  at  module  board  after  the  blower 
motor reaches full r.p.m. If no voltage, check continuity through 
micro  switch  and  limit  switch.    Also  check  wiring  and  wire 
connections.

 

b. 

Voltage is present but no spark at electrode after 12 - 18 second 
delay, check electrode wire connections.

 

c. 

Wire  connections  OK,  but  electrode  wire  does  not  show 
continuity through it - replace electrode wire.

 

d. 

Electrode wire does show continuity through it - check electrode 
gap  to  be  sure  it  is  1/8"  maximum  between  electrode  and 
ground. NOTE: Gap between sensor and ground must be twice 
electrode gap.

 

e. 

Electrode  gap  OK  -  check  electrode  assembly  for  possible 
cracks or carbon on tip of electrode.

 

f. 

Electrode OK - replace module board.

 

2. Electrode sparking, but gas not coming through burner:

 

a. 

Check to see if voltage is coming out of module board to gas 
valve  after  the  12  -  18  second  delay.  Check  the  wires  in  the 
molex connector to be sure they are intact and making contact 
with the module board. Check  wire from the module board to 
valve for continuity. Wire and connections check OK - replace 
module board.

 

b. 

Voltage  is  coming  out  of  module  board  to  gas  valve,  but  gas 
valve does not open - replace gas valve.

 

3. Electrode sparking and gas valve opening, but burner will not 

light:

 

a. 

Check to see if gas is coming through to the burner. This can 
be accomplished by using a flow meter in the gas supply line. If 
no gas is coming through the burner, check for obstruction in 
gas line, in main  burner orifice, or in main burner.

 

b. 

Gas  is  coming  through  burner,  but  spark  will  still  not  ignite 
burner - check gas pressure.

 

Line Pressure - Min. 11" W.C.*, Max.  14" W.C.

 

To  properly  check  pressure,  first  determine  the  line  pressure,  cycle 
furnace and check pressure drop on demand. The drop in pressure 
should  not  be  more  than  ½"  W.C.  A  drop  of  more  than  1/2"  would 
indicate a faulty regulator, a restriction in the gas line, or a pinched 
gas  line.  Excessive  pressure  drop  could  also  be  due  to  moisture 
contamination. 

 

c. 

Gas pressure OK - check for obstruction in main burner; check 
to be sure electrode is positioned approximately 1/4" above and 
directly  over  slots  on  the  main  burner  -  adjust  electrode  if 
necessary.

 

d. 

Remove  burner  and  check  burner  for  obstructions.  Clean  as 
required.

 

4. Burner ignites, but goes off and into lockout:

 

a. 

Check to be certain that flame sensor is over slots in the main 
burner and that the main burner flame is burning against the tip 
of the flame sensor - adjust by bending sensor probe. NOTE: 
Sensor  probe  should  be  in  the  inner  blue  cone  of  the  burner 
flame (approximately 1/4" t o 5/16" above burner).

 

b. 

Burner still goes off and into lockout - check wire connections 
at flame sensor and at module board.

 

c. 

Wire connections OK - check continuity through flame sensor 
wire.

 

d. 

Continuity  of  flame  sensor  wire  OK  -  check  with  micro  amp 
meter in series with flame sensor and flame sensor wire to be 
certain that the flame sensor is generating at least seven micro 
amps within seven seconds after the burner is ignited. Connect 
meter as follows: (+) to sensor wire, (-) to sensor probe. Adjust 
position of sensor probe, check for carbon deposits on sensor 
probe if reading is less than seven micro amps.

 

e. 

Flame sensor circuit generating at least seven micro amps, but 
burner still goes off and into lockout - replace module board.

 

5. Repeated module board failures:

 

a. 

Check  to  be  certain  that  the  electrode  spark  is  not  sparking 
against the flame sensor portion of the electrode assembly.  

 

b. 

Check to be sure module board or high voltage wires are not 

shorted to the chamber wrapper or other furnace parts.

 

c. 

Be sure insulator covering the electrode wire connection on the 
coil of the module board is in place and insulator behind module 
board is in place.

 

d. 

Make certain that the transformer voltage is within 24 - 30 volts 
A.C. 

 

e. 

Be sure duct connections to furnace are airtight. Seal duct collar 
connections to furnace cabinet with duct tape, if necessary to 
prevent hot air leakage. No air leakage should exist anywhere 
in  the  duct  system,  especially  at  connections  on  furnace 
cabinet.

 

f. 

Be sure sensor wire terminal is tightly affixed to sensor probe.

 

g. 

Be  sure  high  voltage  electrode  wire  is  in  good  condition  and 
properly positioned onto pierce point electrode.

 

6. 

Customer complains of unit going into lockout only once in a 

while:

 

a. 

Thoroughly check electrode and burner relationship.

 

b. 

Lockout can occur if the gas pressure fluctuates at the time the 
thermostat calls for heat. Pressure fluctuations can be caused 
by a malfunctioning gas bottle regulator, an obstruction or a kink 
in the gas line, or moisture in the gas bottle regulator or in the 
gas lines. It is difficult to check for these fluctuations that will not 
noticeably  affect  any  other  appliance  in  the  coach.  However, 

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Page 8: ...8 SH and SHD 2542 VENT ASSEMBLY INSTALLATION SF and SH SERIES Figure 3 SF Figure 3A...

Page 9: ...9 SH VENT ASSEMBLY INSTALLATION SFV Figure 4 SF Figure 4A...

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Page 12: ...12 Figure 6A VENT ASSEMBLY INSTALLATION DD SERIES Note Vent cap must be installed on DD furnace when bench testing Figure 7...

Page 13: ...VENT ASSEMBLY INSTALLATION NT SERIES 13 NT 12 16 20S and SE NT 12 16S Figure 8 NT 12 16 20SE Figure 9 Figure 10...

Page 14: ...VENT ASSEMBLY INSTALLATION NT SERIES 14 NT 20S Figure 11 Figure 12...

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Page 30: ...comes up to speed air flow closes the sail switch completing the circuit The sail switch is placed into the system as a safety to prove there is adequate air for combustion The next operation is cont...

Page 31: ...nse sail switch and limit switch circuits and the thermostat inputs during the heating period The flame is sensed through the spark wire and electrode Therefore it is essential that the electrode is p...

Page 32: ...cycle the limit switch circuit opens and remains open the gas valve will close and the blower motor will continue to run 90 Second Shut Down When the thermostat has reached its set point and the deman...

Page 33: ...will remain in the second stage operation until thermostat is satisfied 90 Second Shut Down When the thermostat has reached its set point and the demand for heat ends the gas valve will be de energize...

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Page 36: ...in the gas supply line If no gas is coming through the burner check for obstruction in gas line in main burner orifice or in main burner b Gas is coming through burner but spark will still not ignite...

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Page 39: ...39 Figure 26 Local Flame Sense SF Models With Time Delay Figure 27 Fan Control Board NT 12 16 20S and SE...

Page 40: ...40 Figure 28 Fan Control Board NT 24 30 34SP and NT 40 Figure 29 Fan Control...

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